JoeM Don't be ridiculous. If you took a poll in modern times, the sentiment would be reversed for your three historic examples. Modern day radical conservatives point to what other people did a century or more ago to illustrate their morality. If it wasn't so sad, it would be laughable. It embarrasses moderate Republicans.
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JohnB I don't think that's true.
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JoeM
JoeM I'm sure it is. Maybe not in such impressive numbers. Southern Democrats were a different animal then. Ultra conservative states rights. Who does that describe in today's world? You can still have the beer, though.
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JohnB
JohnB Well, OK, if there's free beer involved.
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DonaldS
DonaldS JoeM No Joe, what you said is not true, but John's post is accurate. To add to his post, the Dim's created the KKK and Hillary saw Byrd as her mentor. The Dim's have hurt the blacks in so many ways acting as if they were trying to help. Lyndon Johnson started the welfare system and now only 25% of the black families have a father in the home. It was 75% before welfare.
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JoeM DonaldS , I'm guessing English is your second language. Keep working on it, and I see you're interested in history. You might also want to try current events.
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JohnB
JohnB JoeM I wish you knew Don. He's an amazing person- an amazing man. You'd really like him.
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JoeM
JoeM Maybe, but I'm pretty sure we wouldn't agree on politics!
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DonaldS
DonaldS JoeM Yep, it is my second language. Southern is my first. LOL Try not to distract from the main issue. Try a few facts to prove your point.
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JohnB
JohnB Prob not agree on a considerable amount, JoeM.
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JohnB DonaldS LOL!!
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DonaldS
DonaldS JohnB Thanks John. They will accuse you of spin. Ha-ha!
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JohnB
JohnB DonaldS LOL! I been accused of worse!
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JohnB "....we've got to give them a little something, just enough to quiet them down, not enough to make a difference... I'll have them n***ers voting Democratic for the next two hundred years". LBJ
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JoeM
JoeM Never did like him, even before that came out. I'm sure there are a lot of closet bigots in politics still, even after fifty years.
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JohnB
JohnB He was a typical Democrat.
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JoeM
JoeM He was a typical politician.
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JohnB JoeM WELL!!! We can agree on that!!!
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DonaldS
DonaldS Do we call Hillary a politician or a Democrat? She has said much the same as LBJ. Hillary Clinton call African-American youth 'superpredators'.
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JohnB DonaldS I'd call her someone with real poor judgement,,,,,, among other things.
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DonaldS JohnB come go dancing with us tonight! Get to get off this computer and take my weekly bath.
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JohnB DonaldS LOL!!! Not up to a quick trip to Chatt,,,, will have to plan ahead.
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DanM
DanM · Friends with JoeM
But, the FACTS remain. Spin them any way that you want......as usual.
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JoeM Hundred year old facts, Dan. Not relevant in today's world. Simply ammo for die-hard party members who defend their political party and believe the party is always right. Both parties suck.
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AdamR
AdamR The parties were actually reversed during the first three. The then-republican party was the precursor to today's Democratic Party, but let's not let facts get in the way of some good ole gop propaganda!
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AdamR https://www.weekendcollective.com/republicans-used-to-be.../
Republicans Used to Be Liberal, Democrats Conservative. Here's What…
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JohnB
JohnB and that's how the Dems like to spin it.
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DonaldS
DonaldS JoeM You and Adam have been sitting in some liberal professors class. LOL
How old is the KKK? Was Senator Byrd a member of the KKK? Did Hillary say he was her mentor? Did LBJ push through the SNAP program? How is that working for ya? Hillar...See More
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DonaldS
DonaldS AdamR There are many Democrats, myself included, that are now Republicans. So, how many Democrats, at the time, voted to free the slaves? Are you getting the picture yet?
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AdamR Uh it's not spin it's historically accurate. If you change the meme to liberals and conservatives, it would be liberals on all four. The Republican Party now is conservative and would not follow the pattern shown above. You don't have to like it but that's the truth, get over it.
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DanM · Friends with JoeM
The good thing about history is that, you cannot change it. Dream and wish all that you want.
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AdamR
AdamR DanM correct, but it sure as shit can be misinterpreted and misrepresented by people who want to ignore the reality of what was - whoever created this meme being the prime example.
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DonaldS
DonaldS We always have to ask the question, "whose facts"?
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DanM · Friends with JoeM
I'll take the generally established facts. Try as many will, you just cannot change history in order to support your particular point of view. Example: A very strong plurality of conservatives swept Ronald Reagan into the Presidency. Even 200 years from now, they will not be Democrats.
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JohnB
JohnB AdamR You are confused about Conservatives and Democrats. Conservative=Responsible, Democrats=free stuff paid with other people's money.
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AdamR DanM I never said they were democrats, merely pointing out the ridiculous idea that the Republican Party from when these events took place doesn't resemble the current Republican Party and their philosophies in the slightest and more resembles the ideals of current day democrats. It's like talking to a brick wall, the point being missed over and over.
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AdamR JohnB Thank you for your enlightened comment.
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LarryB · Friends with JoeM
The best way to translate this in the current environment is to insert 'progressive' for the people who supported these initiatives and 'conservatives' for those who opposed. Fortunately, the 'progressives' of their time - no matter their party at the time - carried the day.
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JohnB
JohnB The best way for you to translate it to spin it your way, that is.
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JohnB
JohnB Progressive=Socialist.
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LarryB · Friends with JoeM
So, the people who voted to end slavery and provide the vote to women are socialists? If so, I stand convicted of being in favor of both. Don't be so doctrinaire.
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JohnB
JohnB LarryB No, they were Republicans- Conservatives in other words. You stay confused a lot!
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