My heart is aching, but this reflection on the election best addresses many of the thoughts swirling around in my head as people speculate why the most qualified candidate in history lost a bitter, long-contested Presidential election as the rest of the world looked on in disbelief. Yes, yes, yes to all of the points made by Rebecca Solnit. #ImStillWithHer
"It’s impossible to disconnect the seething, irrational emotionality from misogyny, and the misogyny continues. Since election night, I’ve been hearing too many men of the left go on and on about how Clinton was a weak candidate. I’ve wondered about that word weak, not only because it is so often associated with women, but because what they’re calling her weakness was their refusal to support her...
Or, as...Aruna d’Souza put it Wednesday: '...[I]f you think that the angry anti-establishment vote won (hence Sanders would have fared better), let me remind you that patriarchy and white supremacy are the cornerstones of the Establishment.'"
Don't call Clinton a weak candidate: it took decades of scheming to beat her
Years of Republican plots, an opponent deified by television, and FBI smears stood in her way – and she still won the popular vote by more than Kennedy did
THEGUARDIAN.COM|BY REBECCA SOLNIT
Vincent A I cannot understand the refusal of otherwise progressive and reasonable individuals to acknowledge the obvious and detrimental problems with Clinton's candidacy. There are videos, countless interviews, legislative history, literal decades of evidence that Clinton is a racist, that she disagrees with gay marriage, that she supports elitist international trade agreements, that she will sell political representation to the highest wall street bidder, and the fact that, after a 20 year record low in voter turnout, people are still arguing that her loss was a result of "patriarchy" and "misogyny" provides one of the best examples of why appeasement liberalism through corrupt Democrats will never result in meaningful change for this country. Clinton is a white, privileged member of the power elite; a senator, secretary of state, a millionaire who helped implement legislation like DOMA and three-strikes, and she wields white supremacy and oppressive patriarchy as well as anyone.
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Jennifer AW Anuja Acharya, any interest in taking this one?
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John B The Presidential election of 1960 was one of the closest in American history. John F. Kennedy won the popular vote by a slim margin of approximately 100,000 votes. Richard Nixon won more individual states than Kennedy, but it was Kennedy who prevailed by winning key states with many electoral votes.
Nancy NW Jennifer, I don't know if it's delirium at this point, but I cannot stop laughing at this guy (and others) who are only proving your point. 😂😂😂😂 #gtfo
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Jennifer AW Yaaaasssss 👏
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Vincent A Lol, I'll come back when you want to have an adult conversation.
Nancy NW Sweetheart, that's the only kind of conversation I have. I'm happy to talk through with you how gender dynamics played a role in this election. It's unfortunately more complicated than that, and there are a lot of factors at play (including some points...See More
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Vincent A Cool, I'll just go point by point then.
1) your patronizing and incendiary personal attacks serve as a fallacous attempt to attack my person instead of my arguments, a fallacy known as an "ad hominem" attack, generally used by those whose arguments la...See More
Nancy NW I am really not trying to have a facebook war on this. I feel attacked right now when I am sincerely trying to have a productive dialogue with you. I would also like to reiterate that "delirium" is playing a role in my "patronizing and incendiary personal attacks" because I am exhausted of having white men tell me sexism and racism did not play a role in this. These are aspects that are nearly impossible for you to recognize any way because you have never experienced them firsthand. I do not disagree with parts of your original comment, or others on this post, and I laughed because without even needing to read the article, it is obvious you are just proving the point - gender played a role here because Clinton was viewed, interpreted, and judged differently (mostly subconciously) because she is a woman. Please try to climb the ladder in ANY field as a woman whose otherwise admirable traits in a male counterpart are viewed as "emotional," "weak", or "bitchy." Yes, Clinton played the game. She is part of the system. Do you think she would have made any progress in her 30-year career otherwise? She'd still be in rural Arkansas if she didn't realize what is necessary to break the glass ceiling. And yes, it backfired because the party she represents was ill-equipped to capitalize on her strengths and unwilling to understand where the other half of America was coming from. But to ignore the fact that gender played a role in this, and in doing so, infer that I am the malicious one here for simply articulating my opinions and actual observations of the world as a strong, capable woman is only making it worse. If you want to continue this conversation with me as an adult (your words, not mine), please send me a private message. I'm done here.
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Jennifer AW ^ THIS. ALL OF THIS. [Bows down.]
Seriously though, very well articulated. (Also, article is totally worth 5 minutes if you still haven't read it.)
Nancy NW I've read it, just noting how obvious the irony is here... :)
Carl S Clinton lost because she and her campaign failed to connect with rust-belt democrats in Wisconson, Michigan, and Pennsylvania. Bill Clinton's deregulation of wall street and passage of NAFTA hurt those people greatly. It's no wonder they weren't excited to vote for more of the same. The democratic elite have totally failed us by running literally the second least-liked candidate in the history of the USA (second to Trump).
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John B I think there was an amount of over confidence and an attitude of entitlement that turned a lot of people off. There will be a woman president, hopefully b4 too long, but there are better choices.
David D .
"And even though it all went wrong
I'll stand before the Lord of Song
With nothing on my tongue but Hallelujah"